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		<title>#Ableton Q: Start a track before 1.1.0?</title>
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<p> My friend Dylan wrote &#8220;Here&#8217;s a problem I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out for a while now: say you want to drop a track in from the very start instead of fading it in  slowly, but it starts before the first downbeat. (This usually comes up when I&#8217;m messing with acapellas, but can apply to a full song as well I suppose.) Is there a clever work-around to drag 1.1 back beyond the start  of the audio file so it drops on 4.2, for example? Then I could trigger  it however many bars earlier as appropriate to let it come in synced.&#8221;</p>
<p>1.1 is a convenience point so you can drag the &#8216;start&#8217; marker before 1.1.   That&#8217;s a time saving trick when you&#8217;re warping a track &#8212; find the first solid, unambiguous downbeat, and then set that as 1.1, warp from there (automatically or manually) and then drag the start point to the actual track start.</p>
<p>BUT &#8212; if you set the start marker NOT on a downbeat, you&#8217;re not going to get things the way you&#8217;d like.  What that seems to mean is &#8216;the downbeat is offset from what Live thinks is the downbeat.   This lets you play tricks like drag the loop to the middle of a measure, and then set the start on the downbeat, if you want to loop a measure, but combining the first half of one measure with the last half of the previous measure.</p>
<p>The only way I know how to do what Dylan wants is to always keep the start marker on a downbeat.  In Live 8 you can drag the start and end markers before and after the actual clip&#8217;s start and end. So you can warp the track starting at a logical place, and then drag the start marker to the downbeat before where you&#8217;d like the clip to come in.  In Live 7, you can&#8217;t go before or after the clip&#8217;s actual beginning or end, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Then, if there&#8217;s audio before the beat you want to come in on, use a volume envelope to mute it.  And you have to trigger the clip a measure before where you want the downbeat to fall.</p>
<p>Ideally there&#8217;d be a second type of start marker, that would mean &#8216;start here, but keep the downbeats in sync&#8217; &#8212; but there isn&#8217;t.</p>
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